Opinion
Cook’s Top 5: Pro Wrestling Debates
It’s political debate season, and that means Steve Cook is here to rescue you with his Top 5 Pro Wrestling Debates!
It’s political debate season, and that means Steve Cook is here to rescue you with his Top 5 Pro Wrestling Debates!
Everybody’s talking about debates these days. I hear some people calling these upcoming Presidential Debates the most important in history. I feel like I hear this every four years, but it sounds louder in 2020 than it ever has before. Though, to be honest, I feel like most people have made up their minds at this point, and each side will claim victory as long as their guy doesn’t pee & poop themselves on camera.
Instead of talking about that, I thought it would be more fun to look back in the annals of wrestling history and talk about the five greatest debates on wrestling shows between wrestlers. Last I checked, this was a wrestling (and other nerd stuff) website. So let’s do that!
5. Christopher Nowinski vs. Scott Steiner (WWE Monday Night Raw, 4/14/03)
WWE liked to dip its toes into the political waters even before the McMahon family funded presidents. Back in early 2003, everybody was talking about the Iraq War, and everybody had an opinion on it. Including pro wrestlers! Christopher Nowinski was a noted war dove, while Scott Steiner…well, you can probably imagine Big Poppa Pump’s opinion on wars. Jerry Lawler moderated this debate in Richmond, Virginia, an area which was much friendlier to Republicans back in 2003.
This was different from other wrestling debates in that wrestlers were assigned an opinion on a topic, like a college debate. Unfortunately, Nowinski’s Harvard expertise was outshined by Steiner’s University of Michigan credentials, even though we later found out that some of the information behind the Iraq War was wasn’t quite accurate.
4. Kofi Kingston vs. Chris Jericho vs. The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. R-Truth vs. CM Punk (WWE Monday Night Raw 2/13/12)
Jerry Lawler had a tough time keeping order in these debates, and he really had a difficult time on his hands here. The King had to moderate a six-person debate involving the participants in the Elimination Chamber, and John Laurinitas & Vickie Guerrero also felt the need to chime in. He did the best he could though, and all of the debate participants came off as being deserving of the WWE Championship.
The crowd seemed behind Punk so I guess you’d have to consider him the winner, but I can also see an argument for R-Truth.
3. Chris Jericho vs. Orange Cassidy (AEW Dynamite, 8/5/20)
Could be some recency bias at hand here, but I thought the debate between Chris Jericho & Orange Cassidy was very well done. Eric Bischoff made his first appearance on TNT in nineteen years to serve as moderator. Jericho dominated most of the early part of the debate, as you would expect from a man of his verbal expertise. Add in the fact that OC passed on answering a few questions, and it looked like Jericho was on an easy road to victory. Then the mood changed when Bischoff asked a question about global warming. Jericho was the one with nothing to say while Orange gave a quick & concise view of the matter. Add in a closing where Cassidy put all of his cards on the able & explained how he was looking forward to their match, and it was easy for Eric to award the victory to Orange Cassidy.
Orange Cassidy doesn’t speak often, so it would behoove you to listen when he does.
2. Jerry Lawler vs. Paul E. Dangerously (WWF Raw is War, 3/10/97)
Extreme Championship Wrestling was ready to do their first pay per view event in April 1997. Vince McMahon was happy to give Paul E. & his wrestlers some airtime, heavily featuring them on an edition of Raw in the Manhattan Center. Jerry Lawler, an independent promoter of some repute in his day, took offense to all this. He believed that ECW was extremely crappy, and had no idea why Vince was giving them airtime. (The answer was that Vince was secretly paying Paul E. on the side to help the promotion along, but nobody outside a select few knew that at the time.)
Lawler’s distaste towards Paul E. & his promotion led to a debate being held on Raw with Jim Ross as the moderator. Not that he did much in the way of moderating, as both men went way over their time and didn’t address the one question he had. But if you have a debate with two talkers on the level of Jerry Lawler & Paul E. Dangerously in 1997, it’s going to be an interesting piece of business. References to Lawler checking out the seesaws in Louisville were made, Paul E.’s living situation was discussed, it was that perfect mix of work/shoot that got kids like me excited in 1997.
JR didn’t declare a winner, but I think you have to give it to Dangerously since Lawler called for all of his friends backstage to come down and face off with the ECW guys and nobody came. Not a good look for the King, but a great look for ECW.
1. John Cena vs. JBL (WWE SmackDown, 3/24/05)
Cena & JBL were on the road to WrestleMania 21, where they would face off for the WWE Championship. SmackDown General Manager Teddy Long wanted Cena & JBL to interact, but he didn’t want them beating each other up. SmackDown’s WrestleMania main event needed to be at 100%, so Teddy booked them in a debate where they wouldn’t be allowed to touch each other, or they would forefeit the title match.
On paper, you would think that JBL would be the favorite in such an endeavor. He obviously studied up on Republican debate performances for his character, and was usually able to outsmart his opponents. Not in this instance. Cena totally outclassed him on the microphone, and also vandalized JBL’s car & clothing in the process. Although, I must point out that Cena did touch JBL pretty hard with JBL’s own cowboy hat. Teddy could have penalized Cena if he wanted to, though there was no flesh on flesh contact so I guess that’s what he was waiting for.
An epic performance from Cena that I only wish could be repeated by the challenger for the Presidency in 2020. We’re not too far down the road from political candidates vandalizing each others’ cars. That’ll happen in my lifetime.
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Chris King: Is Brock Lesnar Truly Retired?
Brock Lesnar retired at WWE WrestleMania 42, right? Are we totally sure? Chris King asks…
Brock Lesnar retired at WWE WrestleMania 42, right? Are we totally sure? Chris King asks…
At WrestleMania 42, ‘The Beast Incarnate’ Brock Lesnar took off his boots and gloves following his loss to Oba Femi. Lesnar has done it all inside of his twenty-four-year career in professional wrestling. He’s a ten-time WWE Champion and former UFC Heavyweight Champion, and he’s one who ended The Undertaker’s undefeated streak at WrestleMania.
While Lesnar was in the ring, he was visibly overwhelmed with emotion and crying while he thanked the fans in his own way. The Beast even threw up an x to signal to Paul Heyman, his longtime friend and advocate, that this was not scripted and was real. There had been rumors that Lesnar and Oba were supposed to have a series of matches before everything went down at Mania.
‘The Career Killer’ Gunther was doing Heyman’s bidding as he faced Seth Rollins for a favor. For a while now since Gunther retired Goldberg, John Cena, and AJ Styles, the rumor has been Gunther was set to retire Lesnar in his hometown at this year’s SummerSlam event. There’s been no confirmation if Lesnar is truly retired, but on this week’s episode of Friday Night SmackDown, we saw Heyman talking with General Manager Nick Aldis. Later that night following Rhodes’ match against the debuting Ricky Saints, Gunther choked out the WWE Champion. Could this be the favor from Heyman?
I know in the world of professional wrestling we live by the mantra of “never say never,” but what if Lesnar is actually retired and this was WWE’s way of shutting down those rumors about Gunther and Lesnar? What if Gunther’s next program is chasing after the WWE title, and where is Randy Orton at in all of these plans? There are so many questions that need to be answered, hopefully soon!
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Chris King: Defend The Intercontinental Championship At Backlash!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!
This year’s annual Backlash showcase is only a few days away, and while there are many big matches announced, one that definitely should be isn’t on the card. In my opinion, outside of Roman Reigns/Jacob Fatu and Seth Rollins/Bron Breakker, the Intercontinental Championship scene has been stellar over the last month.
Penta has been an excellent champion, especially after his triumphant title defense in a ladder match against JeVon Evans, Rusev, Dragon Lee, and the Hall of Famer Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania 42. Their ladder match at Mania was one of the best that WWE has produced in a while.
The momentum never stopped, as on the post-Mania episode of Monday Night Raw, ‘All Ego’ Ethan Page made his debut and was quickly inserted into the Intercontinental title scene. Page had a fantastic showing against his longtime NXT rival Evans and picked up a big win in his debut match thanks to an assist from Rusev.
All Ego immediately joined forces with ‘The Bulgarian Brute’ Rusev, who was also vying for the Intercontinental Title in his own right. On this week’s episode of Raw, Page and Rusev defeated Evans and Penta. All Ego pinned the champion, making a huge statement and putting him one step closer to getting a title shot. For the past few weeks I’ve been anxiously waiting to see if WWE was going to add this incredible fatal four-way match for the Intercontinental Championship, but it hasn’t happened yet.
As much as the WWE Universe enjoys witnessing great matches on free television, I truly believe all four superstars deserve the chance to showcase their talents on the PLE. While Penta has done a terrific job as the intercontinental champion, it’s time for a fresh face to hold the prestigious title. Page would make a great braggadocious heel that would help elevate the Intercontinental Championship to new heights!
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