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Rob: What Went Wrong With Bray Wyatt & The Fiend In WWE?

Rob digs into Bray Wyatt’s run in WWE and why it ultimately didn’t work in any character iteration…

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Rob digs into Bray Wyatt’s run in WWE and why it ultimately didn’t work in any character iteration…

So now that the Bray Wyatt wrestling story looks to be all but done, it’s time for the finger pointing.  There are reports going around, most specifically one from Fightful Select, that highlights Bray’s ongoing frustrations with creative and Vince’s frustrations with him in return.  It seems like a marriage that was doomed to fail, but that won’t stop the blame game from happening.  And while it’s easy to pin it all on the old man, I think a lot of this is on Bray (Windham Rotunda) himself and just on circumstances that emerged surrounding the character.  Here are what I think the big issues were:

The Monster Problem

The Fiend was an unstoppable evil clown monster, and that in itself was the problem.  The cool visuals and costumes, the Firefly Funhouse, and spooky stuff made for very entertaining TV segments and some cool visuals like the Randy Orton pose while the Fiend burned in the background at the end of TLC, but none of that could fix the problem that was how do you finish his matches, and ultimately his stories?  Because the evil horror movie clown eventually has to get taken down by someone, but in an ongoing medium like pro wrestling there’s a show the next day after said takedown.  The Fiend as a character failed the number one question as to how you book the blowoff match for a feud:  What’s next?

The Fiend as a character no selling all of someone’s offense while scaring them to death and ultimately beating them was a good way to force that opponent into a creative corner.  Just ask Seth Rollins.  It also made for nonsensical things like Braun Strowman getting dragged underwater into a swamp and then coming back on TV a week or two later.  Or John Cena getting trapped in a dream world of sorts and disappearing into thin air then coming back a year later to confront Roman Reigns.  Even when done well (the Cena thing) there was no plausible ‘what next?’ unless the Fiend lost.

But losing brought it’s own problems.  The unstoppable murder clown gets beaten, that should be the end of the character as either the guy behind him leaves the territory entirely (which is what would have happened at any time prior to say, 1987) or gets taken off of TV to rebrand entirely.  Now in Bray’s case the former happened, just not in the way anyone imagined.  But after feuds with Rollins, Strowman, and Orton plus shorter angles with Cena and Goldberg it was clear that there was no right way to end anything with him.  Have him go over then you have to change or revamp whoever he beat, but if he loses then you have to get people to buy back in when he returns.  To be blunt, every angle or feud ended with the Fiend or his opponent having to be fixed.  The Orton feud with it’s abrupt ending, as maddening as it was, turned out to be the least damaging of them all.

At the end of the day if there’s no good way to end any story with the character then that ties everyone’s hands involved, and guarantees a conclusion that satisfies no one.  A year and a half of that was enough to make it clear that either you had to cut the cord or continue with this character doing the same with the rest of the roster, or at least the ones who didn’t have the clout to say ‘not gonna work for me, brother.’  In the old days he would have been built through some midcarders then eventually fed to Hulk Hogan and that would be the end of it.  But in 2021 that wasn’t on the table, until what happened off camera ultimately made Randy Orton into the final Fiend Killer.

The Bell Had To Ring

Opinions of Bray Wyatt in the ring ran from ‘he stinks’ to ‘he’s ok’.  Name a good Bray Wyatt match that wasn’t a tag match or where he wasn’t carried by a great in work worker like Daniel Bryan or Roman Reigns.  And before you say ‘well, duh’ even guys who are not known as great in ring workers like say, the Miz, have had great matches with people who aren’t on the level of Reigns or Bryan.  And by great I don’t mean five star workrate extravaganzas, I’m talking about matches that don’t have the audience thinking ‘ok, this kinda sucks’ after 10 minutes.  You gotta be better than that if you’re going to reach the level that Bray’s biggest fans thought he should have reached.

And The Fiend only made that worse.  Instead of pedestrian affairs you got ridiculous matches where by design he no sold everything from his opponent, until the finish where he had to either go down to defeat and contradict the rest of the match or win in such a way that whoever he beat was screwed going forward.  The quick and easy version of this is that everything good about the Fiend happened before the bell rang, and once it did it was a race to see just how bad either he or his opponent would be ‘ruined’ by the finish.  The easiest contrast to him, the Undertaker, was Ricky the Dragon Steamboat in ring by comparison.  And speaking of which…..

He’s not The Undertaker

Taker is the quickest comparison to Bray, and what a lot of people hoped he would become.  But there are some important distinctions between the two.  For one while Taker was not a five star match guy on his own he was capable of playing his part in such a match or evven pulling a surprising great one like against Batista at WrestleMania 23.  There isn’t one singles match in Bray’s resume where you were pleasantly surprised because of what he did.  Then there’s the fact that Taker’s size made him an imposing figure in the ring while seeing the Fiend stand face to face with Goldberg took something out of his sense of invincibility.

And then there’s this.  For all the spooky stuff that came with Taker, it all usually came before or after the match, not during it.  When the bell rang you usually had a proper wrestling match, be it some crazy stipulation thing (Buried Alive, Casket), a no DQ match, or a straight match altogether.  With the Fiend you either got a cinematic match that was completely out of the bounds of reality even when done well or some gimmicked up match in the real world like the cell match with Rollins or a regular match that ended with a dud like the Goldberg and Orton ones.

This brings us back to the same problem as my first point, that there was no way to do a match with this guy that either wasn’t an actual match (the Cena match at Mania) or was overbooked to absurd levels or just ended with a whimper.  And then there’s the fact that to a very vocal part of the audience the only acceptable outcome was a Fiend victory.  Taker on the other hand did take some early losses, even though they were in gimmicked up Body Bag matches, but we still saw him lose and thus were not fixed on him just having to win all the time.  We knew he could lose which made it easier to go with it when he did.  The Fiend from jump was presented as not just scary but invulnerable and the people who got on board the strongest were only here for that and that alone.  Which is an impossible thing to maintain without him killing your whole roster.

In Conclusion

Long term the Fiend was just an unworkable character for the reasons I stated above.  It’s fitting that Windham Rotunda is moving on to Hollywood because there he can write stories that have a hard ending and move on to the next one.  There’s no Monday Night after the PPV where the two people who fought have to show up and move to the next feud.  And there’s a much different bar to making an entertaining horror movie than a good wrestling match.  It’s not easier, it’s just different and with a different set of expectations from the audience.  While the release could have been less messy and not so abrupt it was the likely outcome regardless, the only difference being that Bray may have sought it himself after a while.  But it’s a lesson into the need to put limits on characters, one that hopefully everyone remembers next time.  Until then, good luck to Bray in Hollywood.

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Chris King: Is Brock Lesnar Truly Retired?

Brock Lesnar retired at WWE WrestleMania 42, right? Are we totally sure? Chris King asks…

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Brock Lesnar retired at WWE WrestleMania 42, right? Are we totally sure? Chris King asks…

At WrestleMania 42, ‘The Beast Incarnate’ Brock Lesnar took off his boots and gloves following his loss to Oba Femi. Lesnar has done it all inside of his twenty-four-year career in professional wrestling. He’s a ten-time WWE Champion and former UFC Heavyweight Champion, and he’s one who ended The Undertaker’s undefeated streak at WrestleMania. 

While Lesnar was in the ring, he was visibly overwhelmed with emotion and crying while he thanked the fans in his own way. The Beast even threw up an x to signal to Paul Heyman, his longtime friend and advocate, that this was not scripted and was real. There had been rumors that Lesnar and Oba were supposed to have a series of matches before everything went down at Mania. 

‘The Career Killer’ Gunther was doing Heyman’s bidding as he faced Seth Rollins for a favor. For a while now since Gunther retired Goldberg, John Cena, and AJ Styles, the rumor has been Gunther was set to retire Lesnar in his hometown at this year’s SummerSlam event. There’s been no confirmation if Lesnar is truly retired, but on this week’s episode of Friday Night SmackDown, we saw Heyman talking with General Manager Nick Aldis. Later that night following Rhodes’ match against the debuting Ricky Saints, Gunther choked out the WWE Champion. Could this be the favor from Heyman? 

I know in the world of professional wrestling we live by the mantra of “never say never,” but what if Lesnar is actually retired and this was WWE’s way of shutting down those rumors about Gunther and Lesnar? What if Gunther’s next program is chasing after the WWE title, and where is Randy Orton at in all of these plans? There are so many questions that need to be answered, hopefully soon!

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Chris King: Defend The Intercontinental Championship At Backlash!

With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!

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With WWE Backlash upon us, Chris King wants to see Penta defend the Intercontinental Championship in Tampa!

This year’s annual Backlash showcase is only a few days away, and while there are many big matches announced, one that definitely should be isn’t on the card. In my opinion, outside of Roman Reigns/Jacob Fatu and Seth Rollins/Bron Breakker, the Intercontinental Championship scene has been stellar over the last month. 

Penta has been an excellent champion, especially after his triumphant title defense in a ladder match against JeVon Evans, Rusev, Dragon Lee, and the Hall of Famer Rey Mysterio at WrestleMania 42. Their ladder match at Mania was one of the best that WWE has produced in a while. 

The momentum never stopped, as on the post-Mania episode of Monday Night Raw, ‘All Ego’ Ethan Page made his debut and was quickly inserted into the Intercontinental title scene. Page had a fantastic showing against his longtime NXT rival Evans and picked up a big win in his debut match thanks to an assist from Rusev. 

All Ego immediately joined forces with ‘The Bulgarian Brute’ Rusev, who was also vying for the Intercontinental Title in his own right. On this week’s episode of Raw, Page and Rusev defeated Evans and Penta. All Ego pinned the champion, making a huge statement and putting him one step closer to getting a title shot. For the past few weeks I’ve been anxiously waiting to see if WWE was going to add this incredible fatal four-way match for the Intercontinental Championship, but it hasn’t happened yet. 

As much as the WWE Universe enjoys witnessing great matches on free television, I truly believe all four superstars deserve the chance to showcase their talents on the PLE. While Penta has done a terrific job as the intercontinental champion, it’s time for a fresh face to hold the prestigious title. Page would make a great braggadocious heel that would help elevate the Intercontinental Championship to new heights!

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